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Adolf Hitler and Hindudom
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Hindu Mahasabha
2006-11-18 13:33:48 UTC
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Hitlerism and Hindudom
Savitri Devi

Someone once asked Ramana Maharishi - one of the greatest spiritual
personalities of modern India (he died only a few years ago) - what he
thought of Adolf Hitler. The answer was short and simple: "He is a
'gnani,'" i.e., a sage; one who "knows," who is, through personal
experience, fully conscious of the eternal truths that express the
Essence
of the Universe; conscious of the hierarchic character of its visible
(and
invisible) manifestations in time and outside time; conscious of the
nature and place of gods, men and other creatures, animate and
inanimate,
in the light of the One inexpressible Reality behind, within and above
them all: the Brahman-Atman of the Hindu scriptures, thousands of
years
old. This implies, of course, consciousness of the great Laws of
manifestations that preside over the birth, life, death, rebirth and
liberation from the wheel of birth and rebirth, of all creatures, and
therefore of the fundamental inequality of creatures, including
people -
and races - the inequality of souls as well as of bodies, and - on the
social plane - the strivings for an order that would be the exact
reflection of this inequality within the universal, divine hierarchy -
of
this unity within hierarchical diversity. [Image: Hitler in 1919.]
In the mind of such a perfect Brahmin (in the etymological sense of
the
word: a man who has realized Brahman-Atman within himself and, in
consequence, "knows" the truth) the word "gnani" cannot mean anything
less
than that.
It is a far greater praise than any recognition of our Leader's
importance
in mere history. It means that his unique place in history is the mere
outcome of Something deeper and more difficult to sense (for the
common
mind): his place among those at the very top of the hierarchy of
creatures. As I said before, Ramana Maharishi represents the double
aristocracy of Hindudom: both by his caste (he was a Brahmin) and by
the
fact that he was one of the few who were strictly worthy of belonging
to
that exalted caste. His judgment is of more import than that of
millions
of average, albeit "intellectual" people.
I shall now relate an episode of my own life involving a youngster of
a
very low Hindu caste: the Maheshyas of West Bengal, a caste of tillers
of
the soil; one of the innumerable subdivisions of the Sudras.
The youngster, named Khudiram, after one of the fighters for Indian
independence, was a typical specimen of the masses of Bengal: dark
skinned, flat-faced - a blending of Dravidian (the race of most South
Indians) and Mongoloid. He must have been about fifteen and was
perfectly
illiterate. He was my servant.
One day - in glorious 1940 - as he came back from the market where I
had
sent him to buy fish for the cats, he told me, beaming with joy:
"Memsahib" (it is the way one addresses all European women, here in
India)
"I really wish your Leader will win the war! I want him to, and I pray
to
all the gods that he does!"


Pan-Hindu Flag
I was dumbfounded. I had never spoken about Adolf Hitler to Khudiram -
a
non-Aryan if any! I presumed the lad knew there was a war going on in
faraway Europe - everybody knew it - and I was not over-astonished at
his
taking sides with us: all Indians in those days did the same,
including
the Communists (on account of the non-aggression pact of August 23,
1939).
"The enemies of our enemies are our friends" - and Bengal was a
bastion in
the struggle against British rule. But I never expected such emphasis
in
the pro-German feelings of a Bengali village lad.
I asked him: "Why are you so strongly on the Leader's side? Is it just
because he is winning?" (The French campaign was then nearly over.)
Khudiram said: "No, I would be on his side even if he were defeated,
but I
pray all the gods he may win."
"And why? What do you know about the war?"
And the illiterate lad replied, to my further surprise: "I may be an
ignorant boy. But I met one in the market much older than I; he must
be
about twenty - a 'learned' boy, who can even speak a little English,
and
he told me that your Leader was fighting this war in Europe so that he
might do away with the Bible and in its place set up, for all the
West -
the Bhagavad-Gita!"
I wondered what Adolf Hitler's reaction would have been, had he known
the
interpretation given to his war aims in the Calcutta fish market. (I
did
not yet know of the high consideration he had for the most ancient
Aryan
philosophical poem. I was to hear of it in England, from a man who
knew
him well - after the war.) But I thought of a passage in the first
chant
of the Bhagavad Gita, in its nineteenth century French translation by
Eugene Burnouf: "Out of the corruption of women proceeds the confusion
of
castes (i.e., of races, for the castes originally corresponded to
racial
differences); out of the confusion of castes proceeds the loss of
memory
(i.e., one forgets who were one's ancestors), out of the loss of
memory
proceeds the loss of understanding, and out of this all evil!"
I thought to myself in a flash: "True, this is the oldest known
expression
of the spirit of Mein Kampf." And I told the boy: "Your elder friend
is
right. Our Leader is fighting for the Aryan West to go back to the
eternal
Aryan values that are exalted in the Bhagavad Gita. Now I give you a
day's
holiday, and a rupee to treat your friends. Go and tell them all -
tell
everyone you meet - what your market big boy said. He is right!"
Khudiram was delighted and joyously made for the door. But I stopped
him
for a while to put another question to him.
"You pray for our Leader's victory - our victory," said I. 'Now, do
you
know that if we win the war and my Leader's influence reaches the ends
of
the earth, you, within our New Order, shall remain forever what you
are: a
Maheshya - a Sudra. You are no Aryan. The New Order shall grant you no
privileges: these will be, just as throughout the centuries, for the
fair-complexioned Brahmans or Kshatriyas, who, in India, will remain
at
the top of Hindu society. Do you still love our Leader, knowing this?"
The lad of the tropics, the mouthpiece of the illiterate Hindu masses,
exclaimed unhesitatingly: "Of course I do, and all the more, now I
know
it!" For this means that your Leader's spirit is one with the Shatras
[i.e., of the Hindu sacred writ] - that he knows the truth, and wants
the
world to abide in truth, as did the great ones who handed over the
Shatras
to their disciples. This is of no more importance whether I, a mere
individual, get promotion or not in this world. The one and only thing
that matters is the truth of the gods which is (now I know it!) your
Leader's truth also.
"If I was born a mere Maheshya, it is sure that I have sinned in many
of
my past lives. But this time I obey the Shatras - i.e., do not defile
myself by eating forbidden things, do not mess about with girls of
other
castes, and so forth - then next time, when I am born again, I shall
be
born in a better family. And after several thousands of years - time
does
not count - who knows? I might be born as the son of a Brahmin, or
perhaps
in your Europe, as one of the young men who fight for your Leader's
ideals. Who knows?" [Image: Iron Age swastika (sun wheel) from
Gotland,
Sweden.]
Could one imagine, in Christian Europe, a lad of non-Aryan or doubtful
descent saying: "This is my punishment for my past misdeeds, of before
this present life. Now if I behave as I should, who knows? I might
slowly,
slowly, make my way upwards and after a thousand years or more be born
a
German." No, one cannot, precisely because such thoughts are totally
foreign to the Christian spirit and the belief that all souls are
equally
precious in the eyes of a personal man-loving god. This could have
been
possible if we had, in Europe, remained faithful to our old heathen
values. And there old values are the very same "hyperborean" ones as
are
to this day upheld in Hindu India, where the idea of segregated
castes -
the oldest form of "apartheid" on earth - and the belief that the
Aryan is
the one who should rule the world, are widespread and undiscussed
ideas.
Well did Rudolf von Sebottendorf, founder of the famous Thule
Gesellschaft
that prepared the way for the triumph of National Socialism, well did
he,
I say, owe a lot to his visits to India, and his contacts with Hindus
conscious of their hyperborean traditions?
It is said in Hindu writ that "the year is the day of the gods." The
solar
year, six months daylight and six months night, and the Arctic years,
two
or three full months light in the summer and two or three months night
in
the winter, are "days" of the Nordic ancestors of our
fair-complexioned
Indian Brahmins. The gods - the "shining ones" whose "days" were years
of
half sunshine and half darkness - were just perfect types of Aryan
humanity: the hyperboreans of far-away Thule, the ones whom the
twentieth
century great Indian scholar, Tilak, mentions in his book The Arctic
Home
in the Vedas.
And it is noteworthy that tradition among Aryans other than those of
India, places the seat of godhead in the same polar region: the Greek
sun
god Apollo is called "the Hyperborean." Only the Hindus - including
the
non-Aryan masses of India insofar as they have not been corrupted by
ideas
drummed into their heads by degenerate Aryans (no longer Aryans of
spirit)
of today - have kept the traditions. Thanks to its forced
Christianization
from the fourth to the fifteenth century A.D., Europe has forgotten
it.
The glory of Adolf Hitler - and a few of his forerunners such as
Friedrich
Lange (founder of the Deutsches Bund, 1894) or Hans Krebs - is to have
felt it intuitively, with the aid of the gods, and made it the
philosophical basis of their social and political natures.
The holy Swastika that Adolf Hitler chose as the Symbol of his
Movement is
the visible link between him and orthodox Hinduism. One sees it
everywhere
in India: on temple gates, on pennants fluttering from the top of
temples,
on the walls in front of which marriage rites are celebrated (as all
Hindu
rites, before a burning fire), and on public signs and on ordinary
advertisements, and on jewels, "for luck."
There was a time when the Symbol was to be found everywhere also in
Aryan
countries - or countries under Aryan influence: on Greek pottery, and
more
so on Trojan pottery (nowhere are Swastikas more numerous than on the
shards in the second layer of Troy, dating back to some 4,000 B.C.!)
and
in Mexico and Yucatan, civilized by a White and bearded god (according
to
tradition) - and a god from the East, apparently an Aryan. [Image:
Greek
goddess Artemis as "Mistress of Beasts," on a Boeotian vase, c. 700
BC.]
Nowadays the holy sign is popular - widespread and revered - only
among us
National Socialists and among Hindus (the only two sects of people
among
which the superiority of the Aryan race is also recognized and
accepted as
a matter of course. As I said, in India, the non-Aryan orthodox Hindus
also accept it, of whatever caste they may be).
May the official propaganda of Westernized Indians concerning
democracy
and equality not deceive us and prevent us from seeing how close to us
is
- and always was - real Hindu India!


Published as "Hitlerism and the Hindu World" in The National
Socialist,
no. 2 (Fall 1980): 18-20. "Hitlerism and Hindudom" was Savitri's
original
title. Ramana Maharishi died in 1950.




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barend
2006-11-20 09:54:46 UTC
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Is there some way we can ban this stupid Hindu Mahasabha? what an
a**hole!
post your stupid topics somewhere else and don't annoy us with your
idiotic ideas..
this spoils the forum.
m***@rediffmail.com
2006-11-20 23:32:35 UTC
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Post by barend
Is there some way we can ban this stupid Hindu Mahasabha? what an
a**hole!
post your stupid topics somewhere else and don't annoy us with your
idiotic ideas..
this spoils the forum.
hahahahahah this is so utterly ridiculous I wouldnt even get upset
about it.
I dont remember laughing so hard in a long time.
Who is this Savitri Devi ? The name rings a bell but I cant place it.
Did RM really call Hitler a gnani ?
Hahahahah hilarious, this has 19th century bs mysticism ala Blavatski
written all over it.
A noble tradition, brought to perfection in the late 20th century by
the incomparable Lobsang Rampa, the levitating plumber.
This is a great party piece, to be read to assembled guests after a few
bottles of good French wine topped up with a big fat Cuban cigar.

Enjoy !
barend
2006-11-22 10:49:31 UTC
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If you look at this stupid website of him...it is al about dating women
and so, I don't understand it....he is just spoiling this forum and
other forums as well with his childish posts.

This is an ICM forum!!
Hindu Mahasabha
2006-11-22 14:33:47 UTC
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Its www.hindurashtra.org .
Abhik Majumdar
2006-11-22 15:04:35 UTC
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Post by barend
If you look at this stupid website of him...it is al about dating women
and so, I don't understand it
I think that's because the domain name has expired and been taken over
by some squatter.

Abhik
barend
2006-11-23 10:43:38 UTC
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Post by Abhik Majumdar
Post by barend
If you look at this stupid website of him...it is al about dating women
and so, I don't understand it
I think that's because the domain name has expired and been taken over
by some squatter.
Abhik
ok, that is true....but still it has nothing to do with ICM!

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